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“Pandemics cannot be handled at a national level”

An interview with the Head of the Center for International Health Protection at the Robert Koch Institute about lessons learned from the coronavirus crisis and why skimping in the healthcare sector does not pay off in the long run.

Johanna Hanefeld, RKI
Prof Dr Johanna Hanefeld has headed the Center for International Health Protection at the RKI since January 2020.
When you took your post at the Robert Koch Institute at the beginning of 2020, did you expect that your field of work would be the focus of so much attention just a few weeks later?

I have been working in the field of global health for 20 years and essentially, we had repeatedly predicted that a situation like this would happen and began researching it long ago. So for us, the pandemic was not a surprise.

You foresaw the scale of the pandemic?

I wouldn’t put it that way, that would go too far. But everyone working in global health protection had been sounding the alarm about the risks of a possible pandemic for a long time. The Ebola outbreak in 2014/2015 showed how potentially dangerous a pandemic can be. Of course we didn’t precisely predict the exact course this virus would take, but it was clear to my colleagues and me that we would experience a health crisis sooner or later. Because we are in the midst of a global health emergency.

According to the currently accepted theory, the virus jumped from animals to humans, probably from bats through pangolins to us. It seems to be a case of what is known as a zoonosis. Are you able to confirm this from your perspective?

There are plans to assemble an international research team under the leadership of the World Health Organization to answer this question soon. Scientists want to find the precise origin of the zoonosis: one of my colleagues at the Robert Koch Institute will also be part of those efforts.

Are there regions that have higher risks of zoonoses than others, for example, areas with higher population densities?

That is one hypothesis, that zoonoses occur more often in areas where humans and animals live in close proximity to one another. However, and I think this is an extremely important point, COVID-19 demonstrated that there is not a single area of the world that is unaffected. If there is a pathogen in one region, we soon find it in another. That is the main lesson of this pandemic. So the question of whether certain areas of the world are more susceptible than others isn’t relevant. We need to think globally when it comes to health protection.

Nevertheless, Africa seems to be less affected by the crisis, at least with regard to occurrence of infections. And this is the case despite its tendency towards weaker healthcare systems. Why is that?

I try to be careful with these types of statements. I would love to be able to outline the situation, but we are currently still in the midst of the pandemic and, as such, we cannot come to any final conclusions yet.

But Africa has actually had fewer cases than Latin America or Asia...

That’s right. We think a series of factors probably came together to lessen the occurrence of infections. The first factor is the continent’s demographics. Africa has the youngest population in the world, and we know that the risk of progression to severe illness tends to be higher in older individuals. The second factor is that African countries reacted early and took drastic measures, perhaps due to their previous experiences with other health risks. And the continent of Africa is less urban and less globally connected. Both of the latter factors could have slowed the spread of the virus. And the fourth factor could be that people in Africa have certain forms of immunity due to situations like previous parasite infections. But I say all of these things with great caution because we do not yet have enough information about the correlations.

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For sustainable development is the interaction between humans, animals and the environment crucial.
People are talking about the One Health approach increasingly often as a reaction to coronavirus and zoonoses. What is that and why is this concept important?

It’s about a different perspective, about the understanding that humans, animals and the environment need to live in harmony on the planet and that their health is closely connected. This isn’t a new concept for us, but it has taken on new importance since the pandemic. In principle, it has already been laid out in the Sustainable Development Goals from 2015 by making them about the “people and planet”. If we ignore and discount this interplay, we will not be able to continue developing in sustainable ways.

Initially, it’s just an idea. How do we move from the point we’re at now to specific policies? In other words, what lessons do we need to learn from coronavirus?

It is essential that we do not simply return to normal after the crisis and say: “that was it, the crisis is over”. Instead, we need to live more sustainably and strengthen international health protection. Although this has already begun happening in recent years, we have not taken it far enough.

What measures do you think are necessary so that we can avoid facing similar challenges again in a few years?

We need to prepare ourselves more intensely for future cases. That means we need a better early warning system and improved monitoring capacities for humans and animals so we immediately notice when a problem occurs that could escalate into a global health crisis. We will need regular and systematic exchange across borders and between practitioners and scientists in order to do this. So we at the RKI are attempting to network globally, sharing findings and data. As I mentioned, pandemics cannot be handled at the national level.

We are currently experiencing health care systems that are at their limits, and not just in developing countries. How can we make them stronger and more resilient?

Health systems really do need to become more resilient so they can quickly react to changes and overcome challenges. However, that doesn’t just apply to pandemics – we also need to invest a lot in dealing with issues like antibiotic resistance, just to name one example. We will need better health sector administration to make that happen. A critical factor is ensuring that we have sufficiently educated and well-trained personnel. I am referring to doctors and nurses, of course, but also people known as public health workers. These are employees in health authorities, in municipalities, etc. All of these positions cost money, so the healthcare sector needs constant investment.

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Well-trained medical staff represents a success factor for strengthening health systems.
Is there a direct correlation between under-funded healthcare systems and the degree to which a country is being affected by the coronavirus crisis?

The thinking behind that statement may be a little too black and white. What’s clear is that when a country skimps on its healthcare system for ten years and puts off investments, that cannot be quickly reversed during a crisis. That is one of the more important lessons from the pandemic for me. Health has phenomenal value, and we have to realise what that value is worth.

In light of zoonoses and One Health, do we also need more conservation efforts?

Conservation and sustainability are definitely very relevant aspects of the reaction we need to have to this crisis. My expertise is in the health sector, which is why I mentioned that aspect first. But, in my opinion, we need to invest much more in prevention in this area as well instead of playing catch-up as events play out. The latter reaction is associated with much higher economic and human costs, as the current situation makes us painfully aware.

How has your experience been with regard to international cooperation during the pandemic?

My impression is that cooperation is growing between all sorts of authorities and countries. In this respect, the crisis has acted as a catalyst. Now, at the latest, we know that no country can remove itself from the equation. Everyone is affected, and we can only overcome it through cooperation. I hope that this view and this spirit will remain after the crisis is over.

Several potential vaccines seem to be within reach. Do you think it will be possible to distribute them throughout the world equally as the WHO is demanding and as was recently also discussed at the G20 summit?

I am cautiously optimistic. It’s probable that there will be some initial issues and tensions – a vaccination campaign at this scale is unprecedented – but ultimately, I hope people’s humanity will win the day.

Is there a direct correlation between under-funded healthcare systems and the degree to which a country is being affected by the coronavirus crisis?

The thinking behind that statement may be a little too black and white. What’s clear is that when a country skimps on its healthcare system for ten years and puts off investments, that cannot be quickly reversed during a crisis. That is one of the more important lessons from the pandemic for me. Health has phenomenal value, and we have to realise what that value is worth.

In light of zoonoses and One Health, do we also need more conservation efforts?

Conservation and sustainability are definitely very relevant aspects of the reaction we need to have to this crisis. My expertise is in the health sector, which is why I mentioned that aspect first. But, in my opinion, we need to invest much more in prevention in this area as well instead of playing catch-up as events play out. The latter reaction is associated with much higher economic and human costs, as the current situation makes us painfully aware.

How has your experience been with regard to international cooperation during the pandemic?

My impression is that cooperation is growing between all sorts of authorities and countries. In this respect, the crisis has acted as a catalyst. Now, at the latest, we know that no country can remove itself from the equation. Everyone is affected, and we can only overcome it through cooperation. I hope that this view and this spirit will remain after the crisis is over.

Several potential vaccines seem to be within reach. Do you think it will be possible to distribute them throughout the world equally as the WHO is demanding and as was recently also discussed at the G20 summit?

I am cautiously optimistic. It’s probable that there will be some initial issues and tensions – a vaccination campaign at this scale is unprecedented – but ultimately, I hope people’s humanity will win the day.

The interview was conducted by Friederike Bauer